different alternatives for lispOS
Fri, 25 Apr 1997 12:26:25 -0700
> Do you mean to be as broad as "a featureful Lisp system with some OOP
> features"? I tend to agree that smallness should't be an overriding
Not a Lisp with "some OO", but a "OO Lisp with persistence".
This is why CLOS is the right starting point, but the new language needs
go beyond CL/CLOS, and be fully OO. For example, "defstructs" should be killed.
"deftype" might be killed too.
The Dylan folks were in the ballpark, certainly on the stadium grounds,
with their direction.
> KM> Start with Linux, and run a lisp based web server that has
> KM> persistent objects on top of Linux. Make everything use
> KM> persistent objects, don't use the file system. This means even
> KM> source code is not kept in files!
> It sounds to me like what you want pretty much already exists.
> MetaHTML has a variety of database interfaces. CL-HTTP has the usual
> lisp dumping facilities.
Yes and No. I gladly will beg/borrow/steal any and all existing
ideas/code from others, but they are problems with what exists today,
primarily the lack of true OO integration.
Does the fact that it looks like what I want already exists
give you confidence that we can achieve my goals?
-Kelly Edward Murray (speaking for myself)