Another hardware Q
Glenn Alexander
glenalec at shoalhaven.net.au
Sat Mar 29 02:52:15 PST 2003
Hi again,
I'm wondering is SIMD useful for languages like Slate, Smalltalk, et al. Or do
such systems have trouble effectively using this feature? If it isn't too
useful, I'll limit myself to 32-bit architectures since SIMD is the only use
for 64-bit in the sort of small system I am interested in building. It is
very unlikely I'll have over 4G memory in my system this decade! Particularly
if I'm running a properly written system with efficient code reuse and
storing most of my data on a remote server.
On a related note, would 16MB be enough memory for the bulk of a running
system (including a decent GUI)? Assume I'm not running anything too big like
a web server - the device is intended as a PDA. Playing ogg/vorbis files out
of flash memory or small-screen video off a wireless network is about the
most intensive stuff it is likely to have to deal with. Maybe Voice-Over-IP?
Nah, I don't even IRC - I'm a messageboard type person!
I want to use this 16MB as VERY fast cache-like memory tightly coupled to the
CPU and VM-swap in/out to a larger (say 128MB) flash memory (it would have to
be a soft-VM as a write-through cache mechanism would wear out the flash in a
few hours). In power-down, the DRAM is flushed to flash too so the system can
survive indefinitely with a dead battery (I have this strange aversion to
data loss). Upping the size of the 'cache' becomes very expensive in both
dollars and possible RAM speed. (Actually, there are a number of CPUs out
there with 1-2M on the CPU that can behave as either L2 cache or very fast
regular memory. That is probably too tight, though.) The whole system doesn't
have to live in the fast ram area, just all the parts needed for whatever two
or three functions the user is using at the time (OS/GUI + 2 apps). I would
want to avoid VM-thrashing as it would wear out the Flash. Any memory block
should only be swapped out once in 10 minutes, on avearge, to get 4 years
from the flash (100,000 writes). Inteligent flash management can increase
this quite a bit, but I'd still like to avoid swaping memory except in the
case of closing one application (group of objects related to a particular
user task) and starting a different one.
Regards,
Glenn Alexander, hardware nutter.
More information about the Slate
mailing list