Reflection, AI, Cybernetics, ...
Francois-Rene Rideau <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Fri May 30 22:13:02 2003
(1) I admit that the "themselves" should probably be changed to
"part of themselves", to avoid grandiose misinterpretation.
Where is this document that I should fix, already?
(2) You seem to introduce the topic of AI where there
isn't anything like that. Reflection may help push back
the level of abstraction where the (meta^n)programmer sits,
it doesn't claim to ever get rid of the programmer altogether.
Note that sources of information for reflective systems include
digestion of signals from databases and sensors, not just from
explicitly communicated (meta^n)program code. Of course, such
(meta^n)code is somehow the ultimate source of "intelligence" and stupidity
in any resulting system.
(3) The question of whether interaction with a reflective system
could eventually lead to bootstrap a state wherefrom the system
could pick up signals from the outside world and interpret them
as meaning that enables it to survive autonomously, is an open
question, that is maybe interesting, but unrelated to TUNES as
such. Just like I did when the topic last cropped up, I invite you
to move discuss about this topic to the email@example.com mailing-list.
(4) Since you seem very interested in the topic of autonomous systems,
and the limits of what can be implemented about them, maybe you could
do a the following job for the Review subproject on Cliki.Tunes.Org:
review the history of the first, second, and third wave of cybernetics
(and more?) and their approach to tackling the problem of "AI" and
autonomous systems in general, their contributions to programming
paradigms, the reasons for their successes and failures. I think that
your critical approach makes you well placed to tackle such a study.
If Google isn't enough, contact me by email.
(5) I am ashamed of not doing much on the subject these times
(hence my silence on this list), but this list is meant to be
about TUNES development efforts. Things like Slate, Max, ZZZ,
first-class pattern-matching, and other past present and future
[ François-René ÐVB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ]
[ TUNES project for a Free Reflective Computing System | http://tunes.org ]
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist ought to have his head examined.
-- Samuel Goldwyn