[unios] Re: Generic Design

Pieter Dumon Pieter.Dumon@rug.ac.be
Tue, 15 Dec 1998 04:03:26 +0100 (MET)


From: Pieter Dumon <Pieter.Dumon@rug.ac.be>

> 
> From: Anders Petersson <anders.petersson@mbox320.swipnet.se>
> 
> >
> >That's easy to implement on POSIX too, and you can hide teh details from
> >the user too. And with POSIX, it is far more easier to apply multiple
> >filters or transformers to an input stream (file) in serie or in parallel
> >to one file. Your design needs to switch between OH's to achieve this. 
> 
> Is that really easier with POSIX? I don't see why. Of course different OH's
> are needed to accomplish anything like this... There's no way even POSIX
> can avoid this.
> If what you mean is my previous example, in fact only one OH is needed - it
> can both support exporting text as the original format and some general
> format... it's up to the OH.

I think you should really explain me OH's and interfaces again...
I think I just don't understand what you mean right now.

 
> >> If you have a list object type, you can take the output
> >> of one program and feed it - in the form of a list - to another program.
> >> Everything that can be done by piping in Unix can be done just as good with
> >> my method, and often better.
> >
> >But what you descrive __IS__ POSIX !
> 
> What I described *is* not POSIX. It may resemble POSIX, but it is not the
> same. In what formats can POSIX pipe information? Is it text and binary, or?

Your system is also just piping binary. It's the OH's that interprete it. 
In Unix, its the utilities that interprete it.

> >> >> but I can't say it's just Posix with a different name...
> >> >I'm not saying it's POSIX, I'm saying it can be done more effectively,
> >> >more powerfully and more flexibly with POSIX. Add the power of X to
> >> >this... 
> >> 
> >> Add the power of *my GUI* to what I've said, and I think it would well
> >> out-weight Unix power/flexibility.
> >
> >Have you allready _used_ networked X ?
> 
> Nope. But since I can't imagine (I can be wrong) a single example of
> networking which would be hard to solve with my design... I don't think it
> can be less good than networked X. And, I heard some critizism to X some
> time ago... so I guess it's not perfect.

Off course it's not perfect, but with a nice window manager and the right
security, it's about a million times more powerful than the Win32 UI.
For me, networks are of primary importance. I'm not a SUN adict at all,
but   the Network *is* the Computer.
 

Pieter
 
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