TOO MUCH VOLUME -- a proposal
Mike McDonald
mikemac@titian.engr.sgi.com
Mon, 12 May 1997 18:34:50 -0700
>Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:04:53 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Jean-Philippe Theberge <yesod@cam.org>
>To: mikemac
>Subject: Re: TOO MUCH VOLUME -- a proposal
>
>>>>>> "Marc" == Mike McDonald <mikemac@titian.engr.sgi.com> writes:
Marc? Now I'm really insulted! :-)
>Please, send me URL to faqs and informations about this and i will
>start the process of obtaining a newsgroup for us. More info about
>fare's idea of a newsgroup linked with the list can be great too.
>
>The comp.os.lispos seem to me the best solution. I dont think we
>should worry too much about non-member writing, very technical
>newsgroup like this one did'nt get spammed that much.
Creating newsgroups in the comp hierarchy is a pain! They're also
inflexible. Creating subgroups or rearrainging the groups all have to
go thru the RFD/CFV process, which is time consuming and a LOT of work.
Just warning you. I'd say it's not worth the effort at this point.
Maybe if someone actually starts working on something, then it might
be worth the work
Mike McDonald
mikemac@engr.sgi.com
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Subject: [TIP] WHERE TO FIND OUT HOW TO CREATE A NEWSGROUP (rev. 12 July 96)
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One of the more frequently posted questions is "How can I create a new
newsgroup?" Briefly, creating a new newsgroup in the comp, humanities,
misc, news, rec, sci, soc or talk hierarchies involves first proposing the
newsgroup in news.announce.newgroups, then conducting a "vote" among those
Usenet readers who have an opinion on the proposed group. The entire
process can take up to three months.
Creating a new newsgroup in the "alt" hierarchy involves proposing it
informally in alt.config, then (if the response is favorable) getting
someone to send out a "newgroup control message" for the group if you
don't know how to do it yourself.
Other hierarchies have different procedures, or perhaps no formal
procedure at all. If you want to create a new newsgroup in the
(hypothetical!) podunk hierarchy, you might look for a newsgroup called
podunk.config or podunk.general, and ask there about the proper procedure.
For more details, see the following articles. You can find copies of
(or links to) all of them at the following Web address:
http://cs1.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/newgroup/
(1) "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup", by David Lawrence
(a) in one of the following newsgroups: news.admin.misc,
news.announce.newgroups, news.announce.newusers, news.answers,
news.groups
(b) by sending e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu, with a blank
"Subject:" line, and with the following command in the message
body: send usenet/news.groups/How_to_Create_a_New_Usenet_Newsgroup
(2) "Guidelines on Usenet Newsgroup Names", by David Wright and Mark Moraes
(a) in one of the following newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,
news.groups, news.admin.misc, alt.config, alt.answers, news.answers
(b) by sending e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu, with a blank
"Subject:" line, and with the following command in the message
body: send usenet/news.groups/Guidelines_on_Usenet_Newsgroup_Names
(3) "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal", by Russ Allbery
(a) in one of the following newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,
news.answers, news.groups
(4) "How to Write a Good Newsgroup Proposal", by David Lawrence and Una Smith
(a) in one of the following newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,
news.answers
(5) "So You Want to Create an Alt Newsgroup", by David Barr
(a) in one of the following newsgroups: alt.config, alt.answers,
news.answers
(b) by sending e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu, with a blank
"Subject:" line, and with the following command in the message
body: send usenet/alt.config/So_You_Want_to_Create_an_Alt_Newsgroup
(b) by pointing your Web browser to:
http://www.math.psu.edu/barr/alt-creation-guide.html
(6) "How to Write a Good Newgroup Message", by Brian Edmonds
(a) in the newsgroup alt.config
(b) by pointing your Web browser to:
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/usenet/good-newgroup.html
These articles are posted periodically (usually at least once per month)
in the indicated newsgroups. If you don't find them there, that simply
means that the most recent copies have "expired" on your news server.
New copies should be posted eventually.
Finally, the following Web addresses contain collections of information on
creating an "alt" group, including the "So You Want to Create..."
article, and a description of the actual newgroup control mesage.
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~asdamick/www/news/create.html
http://www.ma.iup.edu/~pyld/altguide.html
http://www.tezcat.com/~haz1/alt/faqindex.html
Note: for beginner's information on newsgroups, check out
http://cs1.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/
--
Jon Bell <jtbell@presby.edu> Presbyterian College
Dept. of Physics and Computer Science Clinton, South Carolina USA
Mike McDonald
mikemac@engr.sgi.com