Hi, I have tried sending this several times over the last two weeks and it always bounces. I am now doing a direct telnet to nef.ens.fr to try to directly talk to the smtp server to see if this gets through. For information about reflection, see ftp://p300.cpl.uiuc.edu/pub/washington Oops - this is a bit hard. I hope all these typing errors don't make this unreadable. Good luck -- jecel