Introduction and misc ideas
Wed Jun 5 13:46:02 2002
>VHDL, ADA, Maude and other specification languages can treat external
>libraries as black boxes, with the interface as glue code. Aditionally,
>Maude and BOBJ can then use the interface specification to prove
>properties about the library, good for proving security issues,
I looked at Maude and Project Tatami. These project are possibly the
"right way" to
fulfill our requirements - I just don't have the necessary background to
judge them -
I don't know much in the domain of therorem prover (like INRIA's coq) -
but my impression
was that these systems are still weak and limited and not ready for
industrial use - but I may be wrong. Additionnaly a strong, formal
mathemathical culture is required to work with them - wich contradicts
my idea of a simple unified system accessible to a large number of
>>>I would love to see them implemented as a library for a
The project could not limit itself to a library - the developper
experience will be crucial and we will probably need to start early
with a modeling/development environment. This environment should be able
to manage models of applications in constructions and models of
available APIs, tools and ressources. There is no reason the environment
should restrain the developper to one language, the design should allow
the largest freedom.
But at one point the environment itself need to be bootstrapped: A
language will have to be choosen for this bootstrap. This question may
become hided completely If we find a good existing environment to start
from, like Netbeans, ArgoUML, etc..
>But I think it would be better to try to be language independant
>What about having something like Objecteering of Softeam where you
>model the programs in a high level language, and have the tool
>generate the code, the documentation, whatever, for you. One can add
>his own methods to generate code or modify the models automatically.
I had a limited experience with previous versions of Together/J and Rational Rose.
These products may have made progress but at that time (99') I had been disappointed by
the level of functionnaly and (lack of) usability. IHMO these tools are probably useful
to manage the complexity of large project in rich companies but they don't make sense when ressources are limited. And technically, round trip engineering basically does not work. How is it going these days... ?
And more importantly, they are not free. In the Free world, there is ArgoUML. It is a very interesting project, but the same points applies to it.