Your remarks on the Wiki
David Scott Williams
Tue Apr 22 16:48:02 2003
I am looking for answers on this project (not from this list--I learned
my lesson :-))
I am studying LISP because it is something that I never saw...
When I, in private, find a way someday to enter the sacred priesthood of
the Frenchies who seek Liberte' from OS's, I will write an easier
"HOWTO: TUNES" than exists today.
With Tunes, the gate isn't only guarded by a big Ogre, but hidden
underneath a thicket in a forest that appears on no map.
I think I might have found the approximate location within 100 square
miles... so I'll go back to the search..
>>>This is emblematic of a general trend: people come and comment about
>>>this project, treating us as incompetent idiots, after reading a tiny
>>>part of documentation, if at all. This "background noise" is really
>>This "background noise" is possibly the future of TUNES, waiting to figure
>>out what you are all about, and how they can contribute...
>>Back to being background, not-noise
>Quoting from the bottom of Microkernel CTO node:
> - http://cliki.tunes.org/Microkernel#debate
> The author above is showing a fundamental lack of understanding of how
> microkernel architecture works.
>Do you think that this is a fair comment? Waiting to figure out what
>we are all about implies jumping to unfounded conclusions *before*
>In case you are the author of such "Response to Criticism", why not simply
>ask and pointing out where the documentation is not clear so that we can
>improve it? Is it clear now that we are against the concept of OSes kernels
>in general and that monolithic vs micro-kernels is a false dichotomy for
>Note that all this is not occasional, but systematic: people come up on
>#tunes IRC channel and ask, for example, if we are pro static or pro dynamic
>type systems, which is another false dichotomy. Then assume an arrogant tone
>when is not satisfied with the replay. Then Brian loses his patience
>.... the result is shown in this nice graphic by Kyle.
>Yes, we are ugly, dirty and evil. We are a bunch of assholes around
>the world which are trying to realize the vision of a mad libertarian
>French. But then ...... why worry??
>[I hope that no Tunes member, Faré included, will be offendend by this
>self sarcastic characterization.]
>At the same time don't take all this (our varying humor) *too* seriously.
>I suggest the reading of this fine and humorous essay on CTO, by SkrjabLin
>which is at the same time the inceptor and main author of the Learning
> - http://cliki.tunes.org/Trotskyite%20Tunes
>My best regards Tunesers and lurkers.
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