Your remarks on the Wiki

David Scott Williams xiarcel@prodigy.net
Tue Apr 22 16:48:02 2003


I am looking for answers on this project (not from this list--I learned 
my lesson :-))

I am studying LISP because it is something that I never saw...

When I, in private, find a way someday to enter the sacred priesthood of 
the Frenchies who seek Liberte' from OS's, I will write an easier 
"HOWTO: TUNES" than exists today.

With Tunes, the gate isn't only guarded by a big Ogre, but hidden 
underneath a thicket in a forest that appears on no map.

I think I might have found the approximate location within 100 square 
miles... so I'll go back to the search..

~David


m.dentico@virgilio.it wrote:

>Listen closely--
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>>>This is emblematic of a general trend: people come and comment about
>>>this project, treating us as incompetent idiots, after reading a tiny
>>>part of documentation, if at all. This "background noise" is really
>>>annoying.
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>>This "background noise" is possibly the future of TUNES, waiting to figure
>>out what you are all about, and how they can contribute...
>>
>>Back to being background, not-noise
>>
>>~David
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>Quoting from the bottom of Microkernel CTO node:
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>   - http://cliki.tunes.org/Microkernel#debate
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>   The author above is showing a fundamental lack of understanding of how
>   microkernel architecture works.
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>Do you think that this is a fair comment? Waiting to figure out what
>we are all about implies jumping to unfounded conclusions *before*
>to understand?
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>In case you are the author of such "Response to Criticism", why not simply
>ask and pointing out where the documentation is not clear so that we can
>improve it? Is it clear now that we are against the concept of OSes kernels
>in general and that monolithic vs micro-kernels is a false dichotomy  for
>us?
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>Note that all this is not occasional, but systematic: people come up on
>#tunes IRC channel and ask, for example, if we are pro static or pro dynamic
>type systems, which is another false dichotomy. Then assume an arrogant tone
>when is not satisfied with the replay. Then Brian loses his patience
>.... the result is shown in this nice graphic by Kyle.
>
>Yes, we are ugly, dirty and evil. We are a bunch of assholes around
>the world which are trying to realize the vision of a mad libertarian
>French. But then ...... why worry??
>
>[I hope that no Tunes member, Faré included, will be offendend by this
>self sarcastic characterization.]
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>At the same time don't take all this (our varying humor) *too* seriously.
>I suggest the reading of this fine and humorous essay on CTO, by SkrjabLin
>which is at the same time the inceptor and main author of the Learning
>Lounge:
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>   - http://cliki.tunes.org/Trotskyite%20Tunes
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>My best regards Tunesers and lurkers.
>
>--
>Massimo Dentico
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-- 
~Dave 
xiarcel@prodigy.net

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