tunes todo list for february 2005
water at tunes.org
Sat Apr 2 17:40:24 PST 2005
Since it's now April without a response from Fare, I have to mention
that I agree with you, and that we discussed this same idea when we
I'm getting to the interesting bits finally with Slate, so honestly I'm
just going to put my effort into that. But I'd like to encourage people
to work with Lambda the Ultimate's crowd and others in the wider
language community to get the ideas out there (without explicit
rhetoric; I consider that damaging) and promote projects which push the
state of the art in TUNES' general direction.
On Jan 26, 2005, at 9:22 PM, Thomas Novelli wrote:
> How much work do you really want to put into this? Looking at
> tunes.org I'd say it's been comatose for 2 years, and meanwhile it's
> become somewhat irrelevant because recent developments are right in
> line with our goals. I mean, just because of Firefox and Gmail, I
> don't have much to complain about with computers anymore.
> Cross-platform and open-source is becoming the norm. Something
> equivalent to TUNES is just a matter of time.
> I think we could speed up the process by taking the best and most
> popular software/hardware and identifying ways to improve it, to
> integrate it and simplify it within reason. We can't do it all
> ourselves, but we can communicate these ideas to people in the
> industry/community who are in a position to accomplish something.
> Eventually things should settle out... that's the time to attempt the
> "grand unification"... Of course you want to be ready for it... keep
> up the basic research... just bear in mind that academic stuff alone
> isn't going to have much impact in the wider world... I mean, what if
> there's someone out there who could bring all this to fruition, but he
> hates reading?
> - Tom
> Fare wrote:
>> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:09:34 +0100
>> Subject: tunes todo list for february 2005
>> Dear TUNESers,
>> here are a few things I officially commit to do for TUNES before the
>> end of february 2005. Help welcome.
>> * rehaul the site www.tunes.org. Update the information, make it more
>> readable, make it easier for a reader to identify what is interesting
>> to him, if anything. Time lacking, I won't do anything fancy, just a
>> clarification. Help welcome: writers to add/fix contents, HTML workers
>> to make it fancy (CSS, etc.), Lispers to migrate it to some CL-HTML
>> system, etc.
>> Next step: change the main page to reflect recent changes.
>> * I'll write an article about the dynamic point of view on computing
>> vs the static "cult-of-the-dead" view on computing. Help welcome:
>> bibliographical data.
>> * I'll start and maintain an official TODO list for TUNES. Help
>> welcome: edit it on the Cliki.
>> * I'll start and maintain a list of "term projects" related to the
>> TUNES project. These should be coding projects that are doable by a
>> student in a few months, whether in an academic or an autodidactic
>> setting, and yield an immediately useful result. Your suggestions are
>> welcome, as are your volunteering for one of them. The page previously
>> announced on this list will serve as the basis for it:
>> * As far as my personal coding goes, I'll experiment further with the
>> CL fare-matcher and quasiquote implementation, and packaging it all
>> for asdf-install. Notable issues are the way that fare-matcher expands
>> intermediate bindings, the way that quasiquote can work with syntax
>> extension beyond sexp (things like vector, array or structure syntax).
>> The former is mostly an implementation refactoring issue (though with
>> implications in case fare-matcher is made to work with backtracking),
>> and the latter is an interesting semantic issue with implications in
>> any metalanguage. Help welcome: interesting tidbits on how this latter
>> issue is handled in other metalanguages.
>> I invite those of you who have interest in the TUNES project to help
>> me on these, to suggest improvements to this plan, and to chide me
>> should I fail to stand by it. You may also commit to doing things for
>> I'll come back to you at worst on Saturday 2005-03-05 for an update on
>> those commitments.
>> [ François-René ÐVB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics |
>> http://fare.tunes.org ]
>> God, Grant me
>> the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
>> the courage to change the things I can,
>> and the wisdom to know the difference.
Brian T. Rice
LOGOS Research and Development
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