Sorry to say that...

[cosc19z5@bayou.uh.edu]

On Tue, 31 Mar 1998 Tomas.Kindahl@saab.se wrote:

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> Thomas Fischbacher> You know the story about the Golgafrincham-B people's
> Thomas Fischbacher> attempts to invent fire? Isn't that just what's going
> Thomas Fischbacher> on here?
> 
> Yes and no. There is still an unstructured discussion going on, but when
> the separate subjects of this discussion are isolated and structured, for
> example the LISP vs. Scheme subject, the methodics subject, there is
> plenty of hope that this mailing list will be able to come to some common
> conclusions. (I will be back later for a proposal). Just now, there are
> ideas popping up, and there have to be time for that before the organiza-
> tion of some meeting rules. Let's call it brain storming, and be patient
> for a while. The AROS project debated some years before coming to a con-
> clusion (now they are hacking). The LispOS fans who are persistent and
> patient enough will remain in this mailing list, probably not as long as
> the AROS fans, before they will see the LispOS emerge.
> 

There's more than talk and discussion, there's coding.
At least a few people are working on code relevant to this
project, and from the way things are going, it looks like 
the bottleneck might end up being administrative issues like
licenses, where to put the code, etc...


> Just now i will recommend not to flame, not to leave the meeting with
> a discouraging saying "you are incompetent", to have as much facts in
> your postings as possible, and not give any tendentios statements like
> "every intelligent being can see that Scheme/LISP is superior to
> LISP/Scheme". The ones who think this project is not going their direction
> have to prove their standing points by making a kernel themselves or by
> giving good technical argument for their view.

Full agreement.  If you have an alternate vision, code it up, or
do some proof of concept/prototype coding to see how feasible your
concepts are.  Maybe with a working model you can get others to
follow your lead.

> 
> -- 
> greetings (med vänliga häsningar)
> 
> Tomas Kindahl
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Regards,
Ahmed