Keith Poole keith.poole at
Mon Mar 12 16:13:05 PDT 2007

I didn't realise this project had been going on for so long :)  These 
days a good website is vital - one that changes on a regular basis to 
show things are happening.

I'd really like to see some information on what people see as the 
direction Tunes will be going in - the parts of the website I've found 
so far sound interesting, but seeing more concrete details would be 
nice.  If I can help with the organisation, let me know.  Just to fill 
you in on my background I've been a developer for over 20 years and have 
had worked on everything from assembler language (mainframes, 
minicomputers and various microcomputers), through Unix development to 
Java.  I'd really like to see something more useful - in those 20 years 
I don't think operating systems have changed much, just added 
eye-candy,  that's one of the reasons I'm so interested in the Tunes 
project.  I think we do need a new direction in computing environments 
rather than just another Unix clone.


Oh, and if you're organising meetings, Europe would be much better for me ;)

Tom Novelli wrote:
> Keith,
> Those are great motivational questions...
>   The top priority is popularizing our vision... If we can make
> people aware of what's possible by solving the persistent problems of
> computing, then they'll demand it.  Without that demand, I can't see
> it happening.
>   Organizing the website is a first step.  You've probably seen my
> CMS prototype... I'm only trying to address the problems with
> maintenance and disorganization that we've had with Wikis... There are
> 2000+ wiki pages to sort through (my job)... Out of those, there'll be
> perhaps 200 pages to clean up (or rewrite) as we transfer them into
> the CMS.  We also have 15 years of mailing list archives and some IRC
> chat transcripts... I'd like to incorporate those into the CMS and
> index the important discussions.
>   I'm getting ready to roll out a new CMS with a nice fast DHTML/AJAX
> interface.  Then we could use some help editing the website, getting
> the word out, etc.  I'd hazard a guess that you're a good writer... if
> you'd like to contribute that way, we'd sure appreciate it... feel
> free to pick our brains about the finer points of Tunes.
> Tunes is basically vaporware, or more politely, a "visionary
> meta-project".  We offer guidance based on our research, experiments,
> experience, gut feelings, etc.
> The issues we're most concerned with, in order, are:
> 1. Organizing information in meaningful ways
> 2. Standards -- good, sensible, efficient, free/open standards
> 3. Programming language design, interoperability, unification, etc.
> 4. Operating system design (our original goal)
> There's been talk of having actual physical meetings (more than 2 or 3
> people, but nothing too formal), maybe a few times per year, near
> Portland or Seattle, Boston, New York, Paris, etc.  We should start
> planning something for this summer.  Make that priority #2.
> Any more questions?
> - Tom
> On 3/10/07, Keith Poole <keith.poole at> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I've been looking around the Tunes website and I'm very interested by
>> the aims of the project, but the information available on the website is
>> somewhat brief.  I was wondering what the status of the project was,
>> what help (if any) you're looking for and what the plans were for the 
>> future
>> Cheers
>> Keith

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